Spencer Martin of the Beyond the Peloton Newsletter & Andrew Vontz of the Choose the Hard Way Podcast rifle through a few off-season topics, like the rise of Jumb-Visma and decline of Ineos (including the continued fall of their disgraced former team Doctor Richard Freeman) and Wout van Aert's domination over the rest of the Big 3 so far this Cyclocross season, as the 2023 WorldTour road racing kicks off at the Tour Down Under.  Please remember that any discussion of potential doping infractions is based on pure speculation and assumption. Get in-depth race breakdowns with the BTP newsletter Listen to Andrew's Choose the Hard Way Podcast Hit up Andrew (@vontz) & Spencer (@btpcycling) on Twitter with your questions, opinions, and anything else cycling related